Botch is pretty okay. I don't have a problem with that sort of thing at all.
I do think the term "mathcore" is silly and it annoys me that many bands strive for that label now.
I had never heard Botch before today, but they immediately reminded me of Dillinger Escape Plan. (Another band whose earlier works were vastly greater than their more current, pop releases.) I did a wiki search and found that along with D.E.P. they part of the first group of "mathcore" type of bands. I listened to the songs and I thought they were decent but I didn't like them as much as I like, say, Calculating Infinity. That album, in my somewhat limited mathcore opinion, is the best album of that style of music. I disagree with the wikipedia entry on mathcore, which describes it as having roots in metalcore. Personally I think it's more like grindcore than metalcore. The bands that sound like metalcore are the crappy ones. (Like the new DEP albums) Botch and early DEP sound much more grind than they sound metalcore.
As far as my bias towards the different instruments is concerned, I suppose you have a point. Not being a drummer, I can only appreciate the proficiency of the drummer to a certain extent, because I cannot understand the depth of what they're playing, I don't hear the time signatures in my head, etc. However, to say that I am only a fan of the guitars and that i disregard the drums would be incorrect. I listen to every part of the music.
Also, i am most definitely NOT narrow-minded about metal. I have a few friends who are, you'd find them much more frustrating to try and talk to. I listen to a pretty wide scope of metal. A lot of things I have not even bothered to post here because I am trying to ease you guys into it, lol.
Also, I didn't mean to seem like I was generalizing all core as nu-metal. They are two clearly different styles.
The thing that is similar about them is the popularity with the young crowd.
Anyway, I'm not saying that I don't like progressive music, I am saying that i dont like it when it tries too hard. Hopefully that makes sense.
What did you guys (Tedium PA1NTS) think of the stuff i have posted so far? which do you like, which do you not?
Here are some more songs that are good:
classic vital remains track
helrunar - an awesome folkish black metal band
kroda - another band similar style to helrunar
and finally, i hope you like this one,
VEKTORRRRR
these guys are one of the best new metal bands in the past couple years
"progressive scifi thrash"
I do think the term "mathcore" is silly and it annoys me that many bands strive for that label now.
I had never heard Botch before today, but they immediately reminded me of Dillinger Escape Plan. (Another band whose earlier works were vastly greater than their more current, pop releases.) I did a wiki search and found that along with D.E.P. they part of the first group of "mathcore" type of bands. I listened to the songs and I thought they were decent but I didn't like them as much as I like, say, Calculating Infinity. That album, in my somewhat limited mathcore opinion, is the best album of that style of music. I disagree with the wikipedia entry on mathcore, which describes it as having roots in metalcore. Personally I think it's more like grindcore than metalcore. The bands that sound like metalcore are the crappy ones. (Like the new DEP albums) Botch and early DEP sound much more grind than they sound metalcore.
As far as my bias towards the different instruments is concerned, I suppose you have a point. Not being a drummer, I can only appreciate the proficiency of the drummer to a certain extent, because I cannot understand the depth of what they're playing, I don't hear the time signatures in my head, etc. However, to say that I am only a fan of the guitars and that i disregard the drums would be incorrect. I listen to every part of the music.
Also, i am most definitely NOT narrow-minded about metal. I have a few friends who are, you'd find them much more frustrating to try and talk to. I listen to a pretty wide scope of metal. A lot of things I have not even bothered to post here because I am trying to ease you guys into it, lol.
Also, I didn't mean to seem like I was generalizing all core as nu-metal. They are two clearly different styles.
The thing that is similar about them is the popularity with the young crowd.
Anyway, I'm not saying that I don't like progressive music, I am saying that i dont like it when it tries too hard. Hopefully that makes sense.
What did you guys (Tedium PA1NTS) think of the stuff i have posted so far? which do you like, which do you not?
Here are some more songs that are good:
classic vital remains track
helrunar - an awesome folkish black metal band
kroda - another band similar style to helrunar
and finally, i hope you like this one,
VEKTORRRRR
these guys are one of the best new metal bands in the past couple years
"progressive scifi thrash"
) I love how Killswitch Engage's new singles are much better than I expected (massive Howard Jones fan; shame he left...)
