Halo Is the Halo 5 Beta Crap?

[SecretSchnitzel]

Now many of y'all know me as a massive hater and big time critic of just about anything Halo. During the pre-launch lead up for Halo 4, I trashed that game non-stop. Had it not been for certain problems I had at the time, I wouldn't have bought it... But I digress, that's neither here nor there. I hated Halo 4 though. I hated Vanilla Reach too. And I hated Halo 3. So what do you think I'm gonna have to say about Halo 5?

I love it. Simple as that. It's not classic Halo, sure, but its not a bad game. Not at all. In fact, it's so far from being a bad game, I don't understand where all this hate I see some of y'all spiting at it is coming from. I mean, jesus guys, some of you grind hours on end with trash can games like Destiny! Are you really gonna say Halo 5 is trash but not something like that? Or are you simply trashing it because it has Halo in the title but isn't the classic Halo we all know and love?

Anyhow, the game is pretty solid. It's not perfect, not by a mile, but it's pretty darn good.

What I like:

• Gunplay - Low aim assist, fast optimal kill times... Best Gunplay we've had since CE!
• Clamber - The maps were designed with this in mind... We actually have maps that aren't flat!
  
• Medals - Stuff like Reversal... It feels so rewarding.
  
• Thrust - I've always been a fan of dodge jump mechanics in Arena Shooters. Just wish you didn't put your gun down.
• Power Slide - Probably one of the most undervalued new mechanics. Wish you could tie it to thrust instead of sprint...
• The Maps! - Regret and Empire are great. Truth is alright for another Midship, and Eden ain't bad.
• Forge - Got some nice pieces, clean textures, and it looks like a foreground object color option too!
• Fast TTK - Quick Optimal TTK and long Average TTK. Great dynamic.
• Smart Scope - Finally CQC weapons actually have some utility! AR start gametypes aren't gonna leave you completely screwed over since it has some "range" to it.
• Stabilizers - Note; not auto stabilize. That shit should be manual. Love it for getting those niche sightlines.

What I Dislike

• Sprint - I don't hate it, but it's not good.
  
• Base Speed - Too slow, needs a 10% buff without increasing Sprint speed. They should be no more than 15% difference in speed.
• Ground Pound - I find it useless, and I hate it being mapped to crouch. This needs remapped.
• Hit Markers on Grenades - Seriously, if I can't see the player, I should be rewarded with knowing they took damage.
  
• Shoulder Charge - Not a game breaker, just ain't a fan.
• Assassination Animation - Never liked it, never will.
• Rocket Launcher - Why in the hell did they change it? Effin stupid.
• Frame Rate in Stronghold - This is freaking unacceptable
• Pegasus - This map needs to die

Frankly, I feel with some subtle tweaks this game could be amazing. The biggest issue the game faces is how easy it is to abuse Sprint and Thruster for passive play.

My Suggestions:

• Increase Base Movement by 10%, Keep Sprint Speed Constant
• Quicken Rate of Fire on BR and DMR, Lower Aim Assist and Bullet Magnetism
• Keep Gun Up When Thrusting
• Tie Slide Mechanic to Thruster
• Quicken Weapon Up Time (when coming out of sprint and thrust)
• Tighten Spread on BR
• Make Spread Consistent Between Scoped and Unscoped (Use Scoped Spread for Everything)
• Tighten AR Spread (A Miss is a Miss, Makes Headshots More Consistent)

So yeah... I still think it's a good game. I'll be getting it when it ships, so long as they don't screw up the things it has going for it so far, like by upping the aim assist for increasing the kill times...

 

[-Orzium-]

Ya but ultimately your still scared of change! and that's my point.

 

[Jebus]

Ya but ultimately your still scared of change! and that's my point.

 

[Madirate]

Ya but ultimately your still scared of change! and that's my point.

And you wonder why I removed you.

 

[Jebus]

And you wonder why I removed you.

This doesn't exactly help my point, Steel.

 

[SecretSchnitzel]

You guys are sooooooo mature. And my mature, I mean rational minded adults. And by rational minded adults, I mean irrational children. So yeah, very mature.

 

[Jebus]

You guys are sooooooo mature. And my mature, I mean rational minded adults. And by rational minded adults, I mean irrational children. So yeah, very mature.

I agree, Orzium is being highly immature. I'm not since I'm simply defending why I think the game playing like crap isn't me being "afraid of change" as he says, which is flawed.

 

[Zandril]

You guys are fun.

 

[Psychoduck]

First of all, we have a thread for mature discussion and feedback on the Halo 5 beta. If any of you have any, post it there.

SteelGreen03, responding to this thread being bumped with a post complaining about people not letting it die is ironic. If you wanted to let it die, you should have done just that and not posted in it again. Your second post also served no purpose in the argument. Don't be so easily flamebaited.

-Orzium-, your first post was downright idiotic. I'm sure I'm wasting my time by explaining this again, but I think it's necessary. No one is asking for Halo to remain unchanged, what your so-called "Halo fanatics" want is for the game to evolve naturally. Evolution implies iterative and gradual change while leaving the core foundation intact. Halo 5 is a huge change in direction for the series and completely changes the foundation. This game is a different type of shooter than other Halo games at a fundamental level because it now plays more like a stop-and-go shooter than a run-and-gun one. This is a huge change, and obviously people who have loved Halo's run-and-gun nature for the past 13 years are not going to be a fan of it. This simply is not an evolution on the Halo formula, it's a drastic change.

Your second post served only to show your disregard for rational thinking and to act as flamebait. Do not make a post like that again.

Jesus in Malibu, while your original citation of your response to Orzium's YouTube comment was perfectly necessary, rising to flamebait (and making some of your own) in subsequent posts was not.

SecretSchnitzel, excepting the pointless digression about Destiny, your post was a great one. Please repost that in the actual H5 beta feedback thread linked earlier in this post. You make a few points which I would contest, but I find myself in agreement with much of it. Your second post served only to add more fuel to the flames, though.

Zandril, what the hell are you doing here? Your post was completely unnecessary. Think before you post.

In summary, go post in the actual feedback thread if you want to have a mature, rational discussion about this stuff. Grow up if you don't.