Simple poll. Now that most of us have our hands on the beta, do you think it's crap? Do you think it will forever be a detriment to the series' multiplayer if the final release keeps the same formula?
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Halo Is the Halo 5 Beta Crap?
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Needs a choice for those who to not get it because they think it was going to be bad anyways.
Don't vote then. Absolutely no offense to anybody but the poll is specifically meant for those who have played it so they can give their honest opinion.
Well, I guess I'm the only one who realises this game is incredible. You all go and down-vote your favourite game into failure, it's a Beta for a reason. Provide criticism and explain your down-voting. Don't just mindlessly hate cause it's going back to its competitive roots or isn't perfectly tailored to your tastes, games have to move on in one way or another.
In My Humble Opinion:
Great new mechanics with the abilities, sprint is balanced, clamber isn't hugely game changing: it's just a crouch jump minus the effort of crouching, slide is used rarely and is equally balanced due to the new sprint mechanics, ground pound is fun and a Montage waiting to happen, smart scope... well, watch any HaloFollower video about weapons and you'll learn it's just scoping and not ADS and last but not least charge... a bit naff in my opinion: But hey, that's why we have a Beta.
Sounds are 'gasmic.
Music is almost as 'gasmic.
Graphics are 'gasmic.
BR and DMR are Balanced. Haven't used the Forerunner thing yet. The SMG is a tad too effective in short range with smart scope, in my opinion.
Just wait for the BTB variant, the fun that will be Halo 5 will show itself when the fun gamemodes are released.
In My Humble Opinion:
Great new mechanics with the abilities, sprint is balanced, clamber isn't hugely game changing: it's just a crouch jump minus the effort of crouching, slide is used rarely and is equally balanced due to the new sprint mechanics, ground pound is fun and a Montage waiting to happen, smart scope... well, watch any HaloFollower video about weapons and you'll learn it's just scoping and not ADS and last but not least charge... a bit naff in my opinion: But hey, that's why we have a Beta.
Sounds are 'gasmic.
Music is almost as 'gasmic.
Graphics are 'gasmic.
BR and DMR are Balanced. Haven't used the Forerunner thing yet. The SMG is a tad too effective in short range with smart scope, in my opinion.
Just wait for the BTB variant, the fun that will be Halo 5 will show itself when the fun gamemodes are released.
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Excuse me but having a valid negative opinion on a game does not mean "mindless hate." I'm entitled to my opinion and I don't appreciate somebody telling me my opinion is basically wrong because you love the game. I'm entitled to my opinion, you're entitled to yours. Never once did I imply the final game will definitely be bad judging from this beta alone.
I'm not in the mood to discuss a short-story on the severity of the issues with this beta right now as I have a headache likely caused by the aggregations from this game. If you're lucky, maybe Psychoduck or Flying Shoe ILR can tell you what's wrong with this game from a competitive standpoint if they feel gracious enough to do it after having to trudge through this mess of a beta.
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I knew my post would be controversial, I was more letting off steam due to my incompetence after countless rounds of crap games, I call it mindless hate just cause we've all been doing it to 343i since Reach, thats 4 years, I've done it too I'm not saying I haven't, I'm just finally seeing what 343i are pulling off, instead of groaning at them for any mistake. Neither did I imply that you thought the final game would be bad, odd that. And, neither did I state that your opinion was wrong, please actually read my comment before saying these things... I agree, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, so what does it matter that I'm keen to express my opinion on your opinion? Especially when, as I said, you don't even say why it's bad... which is what this Beta is for.
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Yup, it's trash. Called it way back at E3 with that first trailer. And to anyone who is going to undoubtedly call me out saying "It's a beta, give it a chance," know this: Yes, it IS a beta. But that means much of the game and its design philosophies are set in stone at this point, and it's these fundamentals that I have a problem with. Sprint ruins the game. Clamber destroys map design and flow. ADS is clunky and hurts gameplay. Thruster is unnecessary and annoying. Stabilizers are a crutch. Groundpound is a gimmick. Shoulder charge encourages stupid decisions. Slide is easily abused. The over the top pacing leaves no room for strategy. The team chatter is obnoxious... NONE of these belong in Halo. Please, 343, quit now and go make a COD rip off. We all know you want to. That much is blatantly obvious.
To me, the "bringing Halo back to its competitive roots" thinking is ridiculous. There are too many variables added in, with all the abilities, sprint included.
The unnecessary variables that have been getting shoved into Halo since Reach is doody.
If you refer yourself to the "Bristol Stool Chart" for the following, I will rate each Halo starting from Reach from type 1 to type 7, (type 7 being the worst).
Halo: Reach - Type 4
Halo 4 - Type 7 (with diarrhea)
Halo 5 Beta - Type 6
As you can tell, Halo 5 Beta is a mushy turd. It is still a beta. It can still be redeemed, however.
If you refer yourself to the "Bristol Stool Chart" for the following, I will rate each Halo starting from Reach from type 1 to type 7, (type 7 being the worst).
Halo: Reach - Type 4
Halo 4 - Type 7 (with diarrhea)
Halo 5 Beta - Type 6
As you can tell, Halo 5 Beta is a mushy turd. It is still a beta. It can still be redeemed, however.
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Well, I can see where this is going, but I will post my opinion none the less.
I, in my honest opinion, dislike Halo 5 so far. While I have only played 2 matches of it so far, one on each map, I still feel I have seen enough to make an opinion.
I say this because: 1. I have always hated sprint. Just, no. 2. The ADS-thingy is, to me, useless, since I have always used "hipfire", the way Halo was made with, and didn't use it whatsoever. And I do miss aiming with a scope when it was just a black contour with crosshairs. I dunno, just seems fitting. 3. This clambering thing, while interesting, just seems like it will cause problems in custom maps. 4. The thrusters seem useless. That is all. 5. This is more because of the players, but holy grenade throws, Batman. 'Twas a blizzard of 'nades.
There are more, but I am just too tired to list them. Again, this is MY HONEST OPINION. If you disagree, keep it to yourself, if you agree, keep it to yourself. I want no part in these god damned arguments. It's just sad to see so many good members of the community drop like flies because of things changed and ignored by 343i. I just hope the story in Halo 5 is good, because I fear that is the only thing keeping me with Halo.
I, in my honest opinion, dislike Halo 5 so far. While I have only played 2 matches of it so far, one on each map, I still feel I have seen enough to make an opinion.
I say this because: 1. I have always hated sprint. Just, no. 2. The ADS-thingy is, to me, useless, since I have always used "hipfire", the way Halo was made with, and didn't use it whatsoever. And I do miss aiming with a scope when it was just a black contour with crosshairs. I dunno, just seems fitting. 3. This clambering thing, while interesting, just seems like it will cause problems in custom maps. 4. The thrusters seem useless. That is all. 5. This is more because of the players, but holy grenade throws, Batman. 'Twas a blizzard of 'nades.
There are more, but I am just too tired to list them. Again, this is MY HONEST OPINION. If you disagree, keep it to yourself, if you agree, keep it to yourself. I want no part in these god damned arguments. It's just sad to see so many good members of the community drop like flies because of things changed and ignored by 343i. I just hope the story in Halo 5 is good, because I fear that is the only thing keeping me with Halo.
No, I'm actually a huge fan of it, and this is coming from someone who fucking loathed halo 4.
- My problem with sprint was always that it didn't punish players for poor positioning, that's pretty much fixed.
- ADS/Smart Scope, honestly it feels better to me, it's natural and modern and seriously, it's just a damn scope.
- Movement with thrusters feels great as do the stabilisers and it gives firefights a more dynamic element than simple strafing. - Charging, ground pounding and sliding all feel wack and out of place though and it kinda encourages some stupid gameplay. Clambering is something I'm kind of mixed on, I mean it doesn't punish players for missing jumps and messes with flow but damn it feels damn smooth.
- NO FUCKING RANDOMNESS, EVERYONE STARTS WITH THE SAME SHIT SO IT'S ACTUALLY SKILL DEPENDENT ++++ FUCK YOU CUSTOM LOADOUTS AND ORDNANCE DROPS
- AR is kinda BS ------ For Bk's
- Grenade strength is kinda okay, not as strong as some of the other games but god damn the spam in the towers in both Truth and Empire is unreal.
- The team chatter shit is fucking annoying, like. Shut the fuck up.
- This is an awesome direction to me, after 13 years a series has to fucking adapt and change from strafe, jump, aim, shoot, melee, grenade. Awesome formula and all, and sticking to that core is important, but I don't want to play the same entry over and over like some people seem to want.
- My problem with sprint was always that it didn't punish players for poor positioning, that's pretty much fixed.
- ADS/Smart Scope, honestly it feels better to me, it's natural and modern and seriously, it's just a damn scope.
- Movement with thrusters feels great as do the stabilisers and it gives firefights a more dynamic element than simple strafing. - Charging, ground pounding and sliding all feel wack and out of place though and it kinda encourages some stupid gameplay. Clambering is something I'm kind of mixed on, I mean it doesn't punish players for missing jumps and messes with flow but damn it feels damn smooth.
- NO FUCKING RANDOMNESS, EVERYONE STARTS WITH THE SAME SHIT SO IT'S ACTUALLY SKILL DEPENDENT ++++ FUCK YOU CUSTOM LOADOUTS AND ORDNANCE DROPS
- AR is kinda BS ------ For Bk's
- Grenade strength is kinda okay, not as strong as some of the other games but god damn the spam in the towers in both Truth and Empire is unreal.
- The team chatter shit is fucking annoying, like. Shut the fuck up.
- This is an awesome direction to me, after 13 years a series has to fucking adapt and change from strafe, jump, aim, shoot, melee, grenade. Awesome formula and all, and sticking to that core is important, but I don't want to play the same entry over and over like some people seem to want.
I've played about 10 games of the beta and it's just boring. Perhaps it is because I was never a big fan of 4v4, but Halo 5 seems pretty generic. I don't feel like there is anything special about it. This is coming from someone whose favorite Halo games are 3 and Reach.
I have enjoyed past Halo games because it is more than just an arena shooter, but it seems like the majority of people want it to only be that. However I get the most enjoyment out of Halo with campaign, Forge, and for multiplayer - Big Team Battle. I also get enjoyment out of making machinimas and playing local custom games via 4 player split screen with my family. We have heard nothing about any of this (except for campaign and the fact that there is only 2 player split screen), and perhaps that is why I am not "feeling" Halo 5.
I have enjoyed past Halo games because it is more than just an arena shooter, but it seems like the majority of people want it to only be that. However I get the most enjoyment out of Halo with campaign, Forge, and for multiplayer - Big Team Battle. I also get enjoyment out of making machinimas and playing local custom games via 4 player split screen with my family. We have heard nothing about any of this (except for campaign and the fact that there is only 2 player split screen), and perhaps that is why I am not "feeling" Halo 5.
same entry over and over? you mean like........... Call of Duty? Dun Dun Duuuunnnnnnn
Joking aside, From what I've been seeing in the comments so far, I'm seeing some decisions that are good, and some that are bad, and to have a remake of a style from past games is one of the reasons people hate Cod alot, do you really want that to happen to Halo? For it to become stale? I don't know what the damage some of the weapons, nor how effective some of the armor abilities are. I can atleast, however, look at some of these things drawn on paper. Ground pound, Idk why this is here either, I guess is because soo many other games such as borderlands are doing it (gimmick of the year probably). The charge has a reckless playstyle for risk vs reward as far as I can see, and might like. Clamber will make custom maps more difficult yes, but that's what custom gametypes are for, and it's easier to design a map around than say, oh idk JETPACK. If thruster is anything like it was in 4, it's another gimmick, and a less useful one. Slide, depending on if you can shoot while moving or like the thruster, could be broken or even more useless.
As for the ADS, I think that should just be a setting, something for preference if people like the ADS or the traditional gun off to side and be more effective.
Just to make things clear, no, I don't have the beta, I don't have any data on these thoughts, and I don't want to speak on the statistics of the weapons and abilities. I'm speaking about this from a pen on paper perspective, and this being a beta damage/health values are tentative to change. I cannot tell if the game is going to be a "mushy turd" as shore calls it or a gem, and I honestly don't care. The blind hatred I have been seeing lately is sickening (literally) and while some claim these changes are killing the community, I personally think we are killing each other because of these things, we are making the choice to attack each other. However I am NOT saying these changes are good either, some of the hate is fairly based with some reason. I could be very wrong in all I've said, or completely correct, all I am saying is don't let your emotions cloud your judgement, you might buy a piece of crap, or miss out on a golden gem.
I love it. I fucking love this new game.
^Well worded, such a great quote right here.
Halo fanatics are so scared of 'change' it is unbelievable! In my eyes this game is way better than halo 4 and that is all that matters!
I already proved what you're saying is completely flawed in a YouTube comment and I already told you that it needs to change in a different direction.
Stop fueling an old fire and grow up, you're 18 years old.
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